Obgyno Wino Podcast Episode 62 - Trauma-Informed Birthkeeping
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'Yes,' said Piglet, 'Rabbit's clever.'
'And he has a Brain.'
'Yes,' said Piglet, 'Rabbit has a Brain.'
There was a long silence.
'I suppose,' said Pooh, 'that that's why he never understands anything.'"
― Benjamin Hoff, The Tao of Pooh
In Episode 62, Tracey Vogel, MD, an OB anesthesiologist, is on the show to talk about her very unique path into trauma-informed birth keeping. Tracey is a practicing anesthesiologist at West Penn Hospital in Pittsburgh who has taken a unique interest in tendering women through their hospital-based birth process. When she's not training medical students and residents in OB anesthesiology, she lecturing at ACOG, writing books, and devoting a portion of her time Pro bono to counseling women who have suffered through past personal trauma, whether they be birth-related or otherwise, in the context of pregnancy and birth planning.
Keys from our conversation:
Some anesthesiologists do extra training so that they can focus entirely on maternity care
How a physician's eyes might be opened to the value of trauma-informed maternity care
"Trauma" often conjures up ideas of rape and violence, including obstetric violence. But birth itself can be traumatic, with or without a "healthy mom, healthy baby" outcome.
The importance of giving a woman the opportunity to talk about her past experiences or births and truly listening (this is therapy in and of itself!)
References from the show:
Brad Bootstaylor, MD, and his book "Shared Decision Making: Bringing Birth Back Into the Hands of Mothers Vol 1"
Hermine Hayes-Klein, JD, an attorney who advocates for women's rights in maternal healthcare
When Survivors Give Birth: Understanding and Healing the Effects of Early Sexual Abuse on Childbearing Women, book by Penny Simkin and Phyllis Klaus
Additional resources on the nuances of trauma-informed care:
The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma, book by Bessel van der Kolk
Everything under the sun by Brené Brown
Tracey can be contacted through her website